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[12:17:40] <zooko> By the way, this twisted ticket has been clarified that the goal of the ticket is 
[12:17:41] <zooko> http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/1286
[12:17:56] <zooko> not (hi, pje) to use setuptools to package twisted, but to make twisted *compatible* with easy_install.
[12:18:21] <zooko> My most recent comment on that ticket says that as far as I know, the only way this is done nowadays is by actually using setuptools, but there are in principle other ways to do it.
[12:19:13] <pje> yes.  for one, you can see if setuptools is in sys.modules, and if so, use it.
[12:19:31] <pje> That means you will only use it if you are being run by easy_install.
[12:19:49] <pje> Of course, if Twisted didn't need to declare dependencies, it wouldn't even need to do that.
[12:20:07] <zooko> As I posted in my most recent comment on that ticket, what is required is only that the twisted package declares its dependencies.
[12:20:21] <zooko> I don't yet understand your suggestion about how it could do that.
[12:34:26] * pje posts a detailed note on the ticket
[12:35:10] <pje> It would be by checking 'if "setuptools" in sys.modules: # add install_requires to setup() keywords'
[13:01:21] <zooko> Thanks for the note!
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