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[13:09:56] --> Maniac has joined #peak [14:15:20] morning all [14:17:46] helo [14:19:18] http://www.freeroller.net/page/ceperez/20030630#programming_with_adaptors [14:19:27] mention of PyProtocols :P [14:22:24] the last sentence seems to be pretty true: The PyProtocol takes an different approach, however its sythesis with an AOP approach may lead to pretty astonishing levels of reusability [14:22:49] as peak has basic AOP tools, and they'll get better for shure i think we're on the right path ;-) [14:28:02] any progress on my imap issue ? :) [14:36:45] nope .. i haven't yet had any time to look into this .. sorry .. [14:43:58] do you make any progress in using peak (have you seen the newly started example) ?? [14:51:24] i saw the example. There did not seem to be alot of meat when i looked ( a few days ago) [14:51:42] not alot of progress no :) I was on holidays last few days [15:01:27] i find it interesting, how pje builds the demo-app .. [15:01:36] what steps he's doing etc [15:07:29] yes [15:20:30] --> lstep has joined #peak [15:27:32] oh, i see bulitens will 'work' with Zope X3 [15:28:12] the whole peak.web package will "use" parts of the zope.publisher packages afaik [15:28:36] ah, i see he's making SQL based DM's [15:28:40] that's what i need to see [15:28:40] what do you mean by "work-with" ?? [15:28:56] s/b written with [15:28:59] that's why i pointed to the example [15:29:04] "Bulletins" is a simple web-based announcements application written with [15:29:04] PEAK, Zope X3, and SQLite. [15:29:09] from README.txt [15:29:16] my bad [15:29:41] ok .. i think it'll use zope.publisher mostly for handling requests [15:29:53] i really like what i'm seeing in storage.py [15:29:59] :) [15:30:53] and the best of all, the app will run with an Oracle-backend (just another storage.py) as well :) [15:32:11] or xml or whatever .. [16:33:00] * jack-e is gone (6:33PM): .. autoaway .. [17:19:28] yes, that is the beauty isn't it [19:06:08] jack-e: your cvs repository seems to have disappeared [19:11:47] maniac: i moved cvs.net-labs.de to another host and changed the dns-entry .. [19:11:58] ah, needs to propigate then i would guess [19:12:33] the ip is 217.89.141.28 (inststead of 217.89.141.27) now [19:13:03] you can probably use cvs with the ip but web will not work if your nameserver is not uptodate [19:13:32] is viewcvs installed ? [19:13:44] nothing else has changed .. i just finished a server migration that was unfinished for about 3 months now [19:13:57] yes .. but on a virtual-host only for cvs.net-labs.de [19:14:07] ah [19:14:26] the old server is still online (but without running daemons [19:14:29] ) [19:39:01] maniac: did you get what you wanted ? [19:40:54] (from our cvs) [19:49:23] [disconnected] [19:49:23] [connected] [19:49:23] <> *** Looking up your hostname... 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[20:20:02] --> _jpl_ has joined #peak [20:37:46] jack-e: just doing a cvs update in my project dirs and yours didn't connect :) [20:40:51] ok .. the dns update should be through after the weekend for shure (changed it on our primary-dns yesterday) [20:41:40] jack-e: your right seeing an honest to goodness 'real' app does make the concepts easier to wrap your head around [20:42:36] yeah :) .. it's good to see for me, that i understood them with just trying and RTSL .. but having an example i usually prefer :) [20:43:19] RTSL? [20:43:30] read the source luke :-P [20:46:16] ah ! [20:46:25] UTSL [20:46:52] :) [20:52:48] <_jpl_> jack-e == Ulrich? [20:52:54] yup [20:53:05] _jpl_ == ?? [20:53:24] <_jpl_> I'm John Landahl... we spoke by e-mail recently. [20:53:31] heya :) [20:53:39] welcome to #peak [20:54:03] <_jpl_> I've been pretty quiet lately, just trying to get some things to work with PEAK [20:54:10] i wanted to contact you .. and ask if my last mail was succesfully delivered to you ... [20:54:27] <_jpl_> At the moment I'm wrestling with fmtparse and model classes. [20:55:09] <_jpl_> I believe so, I've just been too busy to even look at my personal e-mail for the last week or so. :( [20:56:13] as i stated earlier, i find it very interesting to watch phillip building his first public available app (peak/examples/bulletin) [20:56:27] ok [20:56:56] <_jpl_> Yes, likewise. I've been watching the CVS tree for the last few days. :) [20:57:49] yeah .. [21:00:47] _jpl_: when you're not too busy during the next weeks, i'ld really like to start a discussion about our XXXmanagement projects and how/if we can share efforts [21:02:49] <_jpl_> Yes, so would I. Yesterday I started refactoring a working project to use PEAK, but I really needed something working today. I probably should have waited, but I hit a wall that I knew PEAK would help me over, so I took the plunge. :) Anyway, it means I'm a lot busier for the next few days or week than I should be. [21:04:43] _jpl_: ok .. i've some projects to start/finish as well .. just let me know (here or via email) when you have some free time to go on [21:05:40] * jack-e has returned... [atl] [21:05:52] <_jpl_> Will do. Hey, are you pretty familiar with fmtparse? [21:06:19] definitly not **pretty** familiar :) [21:06:55] but there was a thread about recursive grammar that helped me understand this issue abit more [21:07:36] <_jpl_> I'm looking to use mdl_fromString to build an object using a *very* simple syntax: field values separated by spaces in a specific order. [21:08:23] <_jpl_> I looked at mdl_fromFields, but the field order seems to be hardwired to alphabetical. [21:09:45] jpl: no you can give every feature an attribute sortPosn = that defines the actual sorting [21:10:08] then mdl_fromFields for your problem i think [21:10:22] <_jpl_> Oh, nice. I'll try that out. [21:10:27] np [21:13:22] <_jpl_> Hey, that works beautifully. :) [21:13:34] fine :) [21:36:43] hometime [21:36:57] cu soon [21:36:58] <-- Maniac has quit #peak [21:40:04] i'll finish for today as well .. bye [23:29:55] --> _Maniac has joined #peak [23:56:34] --> _Maniac_ has joined #peak